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[personal profile] brokethefirst 2020-02-23 08:02 pm (UTC)(link)
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From the other side of the door can be heard the very, very soft sounds of someone crying.]
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[personal profile] brokethefirst 2020-02-23 08:17 pm (UTC)(link)
[AAAALLLLL BYYYY MYYYYSEEEEEELF

Anyway he, of course, gets no response! But the note will slip back out in a minute.]


Thank you.
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[personal profile] brokethefirst 2020-02-23 08:32 pm (UTC)(link)
It's been hard. I wish there were an easier answer for everything.

But



Akira, have you ever heard of the case of the Speluncean Explorers?
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[personal profile] brokethefirst 2020-02-23 08:48 pm (UTC)(link)
It's a thought experiment. I'll see if I can simplify it.

A group of five explorers sets off into an unknown cave. While exploring, the cave collapses, and they are completely unable to escape. They do have a radio, so while they are trapped, they learn that a rescue team has been established, but that the chances they will be rescued before they all starve to death is very, very slim.

They can either do nothing with an extremely high chance of death for at least one, if not all five, or they can eat one of their own and spare the other four lives.

They decide to do the latter, and toss die to determine who will be killed and eaten. The person who dies - let's call them H - is killed and eaten, and the other four are rescued several days after the incident. They are then immediately arrested when they are found to have committed cannibalism, and thus, face the death penalty for murder.

The experiment, therefore, proposes the following issue:

Are the four deserving of death for taking the life of H? Or does natural circumstance excuse them of their actions and allow them clemency?
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[personal profile] brokethefirst 2020-02-23 09:15 pm (UTC)(link)
If we knew more details, then yes, it becomes more nuanced. But the experiment exists with that limited knowledge for a reason.

It's normally used to argue the different effects between personal law and natural law in regards to the normal regulations of a judicial system. But I think it's something that reminds me of our current situation, I suppose.

If we knew more details about Haruka, or about Nikki, or about what circumstances led one to kill the other, would that have made the decisions we made more difficult? I think so, yes. But with the limited information we had available, we had to sort out what was right with what we knew, and only what we knew.

Does Nikki deserve death for taking the like of Haruka? Or does natural circumstance excuse her of her actions and allow her mercy?
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[personal profile] brokethefirst 2020-02-24 03:06 am (UTC)(link)
[Mm. This time, it's Luna who pauses in her response, but not for the sake of a long answer.]

You're really a very kind person, Akira.

I mean that.
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[personal profile] brokethefirst 2020-02-24 03:12 am (UTC)(link)
How you've answered my questions has been more than enough proof for me.


Yes.

Perhaps it's not the most logical answer, or the one that would make the most sense in the line of what we've talked about. But she's still a human, isn't she?

I don't know why she did what she did. I don't know if she was even herself anymore. But I still don't want her to die.
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[personal profile] brokethefirst 2020-02-24 03:20 am (UTC)(link)
Yes. It was.

I don't think killing someone else will make anything better. Even if some sense of justice is served, it feels empty and useless.

Could I tell you something in confidence, Akira?
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[personal profile] brokethefirst 2020-02-24 03:21 am (UTC)(link)
I didn't vote for Nikki.
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[personal profile] brokethefirst 2020-02-24 03:24 am (UTC)(link)
I can't tell you that. I'm sorry.

It wasn't because they were guilty, though. Or that they deserved to die.

It was just the only option I could pick.
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[personal profile] brokethefirst 2020-02-24 03:29 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you.

I'm sorry to be talking to you like this. Slipping notes under a door when I know you're sitting right there. I just don't think it's wise for me to try and speak right now. I'll be okay. Give me some time to stabilize myself, okay? I just need to be alone for a little while.



This was nice, though. Really, really nice.
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[personal profile] brokethefirst 2020-02-24 03:49 am (UTC)(link)
It's the same for me.

Well, maybe not right this second in the literal sense. But I hope you get the idea.

Please stay safe.